A few thoughts about Chi-Kung/Qi-gong:
Chi-kung is a broad umbrella word that holds within it many different types of body centered meditations. It’s a thing the way “martial arts” are a thing.
I learned many styles, both moving and not moving. Not moving includes standing chi-kung, where you take a pose as if holding a tree, with your legs slightly bent, and also includes many sitting down types, such as the inner smile, or moving energy up your spine, over the top of your head, and back down the front into you lower belly area, then back around.
There are forms of chi-kung that look more like tai-chi, with some ritualized movements, however with chi-kung your focus is less on the dance like body movements, and more on internal energy.
To highlight the energy aspect, one type is where you hold your palms near each other, and feel a ball of energy there. From there you can wave your arms around in some different ritualized ways, and feel energy inside other parts of your body and even outside of your body – especially above your head and below your feet.
So with repeated practice, your mental map of your body image gets augmented, and you create phantom limbs, that are felt quite strongly, just as amputated limbs can be felt quite strongly. You learn to feel your chakras, and move energy around very consciously at any time; while watching a movie, or having a conversation, or while having sex.
This type of activity is a great example of the satisfactions that can only come from delayed gratification. While it is pleasurable, it’s also a discipline that is additive. Very similar to practicing a musical instrument, it requires maintenance and continued learning. If you don’t practice for even a few days, the sensations drop off. Regular daily practice will bring the sensations even into your sleep state.
Meditation is a great way to get out of the habit of being inside the left brained analytical ego-centric narrative. Just focus on anything other than your internal dialogue, and that’s meditation. Well, anything that isn’t also story-line based – so that rules out most entertainments. Focusing on the sound of a fan will expand you out of your narrative. Some people use the breath. I’m fond of the visual field as a relatively form-less meditation; just sit and be aware of the environment.
The advantage to chi-kung as a form of meditation includes of course expanding out from your narrative, which frees up a lot of attention to enable you to enjoy more of the present moment. But then it has other advantages that I respect so much that I very often mention it.
The most obvious and perhaps profound advantage is that it increases both sexual intensity plus sexual control. You can feel more energy in more of your body, and are even a great deal more sensitive to the cues and energies and emotions and vibes of your lover. You get much more embodied and present, but in a way that is not so much of just having feelings happen to you, in an out of control way, but also of participating in the feelings; you can move the energies around, in a great many ways; very much like playing music.
I don’t know what percentage of the population is able to strongly feel the kinesthetic sense and create and work with these phantom limbs. In the classes that I took, people naive to the idea very quickly felt chi between their hands and the practices made a lot of common body centered sense to them.
My life has been so incredibly enhanced by it, and it’s so integral to my life and personality and being, that of course I can’t imagine dealing with women as effectively without a very strong grounding in chi-kung. It’s very much a gigantic portion of how to communicate. How to connect. How to share love and space.
I have many interests in my life and am constantly studying about some newly discovered interest, be it about biology or science or music or history or whatever. But usually I limit the blog topics to be about increasing relationship skills.
Chi-kung is not exactly about relationship skills, yet, just like maximizing your body shape with diet and excercise, if you don’t take it seriously, you are not operating at your peak potential.
I’ve been fit for decades, and have consistently maintained a gym regimen, however these last 6 months or so have been more consistent, and fast regularly. So my body is looking a bit better. It doesn’t seem like a huge change to me, but I’m getting noticeably better treatment from strangers when I go out. I’m no longer sexual invisible, and in fact often blatantly not invisible. Indicators of Interest for a 52 year old guy don’t just happen from your location.
And indicators of interest also happen because of vibe, and vibe is of course influenced by your real lived day to day life and how happy and socio-sexually content you are.
So chi-kung is not only great for maintaining strong passionate love affairs, it’s also crucial to simply having a strong and positive stage presence.
Related: How meditation and chi-kung make you sexy
Update: One of my chi-kung teachers hypothesized that an increase in kundalini awakenings that started in the late 60s was influenced by the music of the day.
Listen to this:
Notice the high above your head feelings that are in harmony with the beats below your feet.
That is the essence of chi-kung; co-ordinating the whole body all at once. Feeling refinements that take deep concentration, then feeling other deeply refined bass lines. And more. Music and chi-kung are analogous and even intertwined.
These types of personal development of course bleed into interpersonal development.
Shorthand: if you do not talk about giving and receiving love, then you aren’t doing that. We talk about what is relevant to our lives. If you you are reading someone who rarely mentions love, no matter how much he mentions notches, love isn’t that relevant to his life. If that’s the case, he is not able to feel and give love.
True?
Comment.
Placeholder thoughts, maybe for a future post.
Quoting theredquest: https://theredquest.wordpress.com/
Quoting Delacroix’s Desk: https://delacroixsdesk.wordpress.com/2019/02/15/truths-about-the-red-pill-seduction-and-why-rp-may-actually-be-hurting-your-success-with-women/
Quoting BlueValenting: https://krauserpua.com/2019/02/21/blackdragon-is-a-pathetic-delusional-cuck/#comment-122894
Quoting TheRealist https://krauserpua.com/2019/02/21/blackdragon-is-a-pathetic-delusional-cuck/#comment-122887
Ok, I’ve written before how I think that the idea of being a leather jacket Alpha Fucks as OPPOSED TO provider type of man is a crazy and stupid self limiting false dichotomy.
Here is a great example of why.
If you think that love and chakras and chi-kung are “unrealistic”, divorced from reality, and la-la land, then ask yourself what reality you are trying to create for yourself.
In my reality that I create, I fall in mutual love with young women that I’m very sexually attracted to, and they become extremely devoted and see me as often as I will allow them to.
In the reality that BlueValentine prefers, he focuses on meeting new girls.
What about retention?
What about retention?
What about retention?
Why not see the girl more than once?
Are you not interested? Or is it that you HAVE to keep approaching new girls, because the girls are not interested in seeing you again?
Chi-kung is EXTREMELY down to earth and practical.
It’s the technology that makes girls fall in love and come back to ride and suck on your cock.
Some Related thoughts…
1) . Holiness is a sin. => Although it goes against all my natural inclination to consider myself smarter than most everyone else – despite abundant evidence to the contrary – I do make an effort to remind myself that I am not above the fray in any way, and my ego is as fragile as the next guy’s, and as needy for praise.
2) . I have usually done well by separating the contest – the ‘pissing match,’ whatever you want to call it, from the underlying process or operations. I am generally happy to give someone else all the credit for being top dog as long as I can walk away with whatever stuff of value I was looking to gain from an operation.
3) . One of the central lessons of game for me has been the limits of this approach. Because women are barely able or not able to evaluate competence or wealth directly. They only know that you are good because you show them. And they only pay attention to you after they see the way other people behave toward you. In theory cold approach can short cut past social proof and wealth and AMOGing and all the rest, but in reality all of the guys, myself included, [B]appear [/B]to only be able to approach girls with real success AFTER we earn the respect of our peers in some way. (Even if it is by having the courage to crash and burn a gazillion times in a row.) Because we know where we are in the hierarchy and we can’t actually lie about it unless we are sociopaths (and true sociopaths are rare and have their own problems, like the truth hurts so you have to murder women before they actually discover the truth about you, as you can only lie for so long? This is a curious thing but a distraction as it doesn’t apply to most of us.)
4.) . Some of the – let’s call it spirited back and forth – we witness is mere monkey dance. It is sparring to see which guy will walk away with swagger and which guy will fold. It is trollery and nothing more. It can be fun to watch, like chariot races, I suppose. And it provides real value to the participants and to the audience, as chick dig drama, chicks fuck the victors, and the fanboys get to feed their imagination with dreams of being somehow associated with a winner – maybe they will luck into a cast off, like a roady scoring a groupie after the drummer passes out. At least they can dream, and those dreamers are keeping the dance contestants financially afloat. (People who actually use advise are rare and difficult to make a living from.) That being said, most of Nick’s trollery actually serves to make important distinctions.
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->Shoring IS distinct Sugar Daddying or being a John. Not because of morals, but because a man’s self respect is important, even if it flimsy to the point of delusion.
->’Dating’ in the west is mostly shoring anyway, but that doesn’t change ^
->Convincing an Eastern European model to bear you children and stick around and be nice to them, raise them, and be nice, respectful to you IS distinct from either of the above, and requires a similar leap in ability and character from a man.
5) . The skills needed for shoring, for pickup, and for raising the next generation of men to be more than damaged goods, these skills are learned skills. Most people consider them inborn because that gives them an excuse to not do the work of learning them. It is a nice excuse process to say “I don’t believe in all that woo woo @%#^.” Whatever. I am only interested in what works.
Yes, good distinctions. But I think Nick still displays a glaring blind spot. In this guest post by Jimmy https://krauserpua.com/2018/09/03/ask-jimmy-2/ the subject is of settling down after a career of daygaming. I commented:
Krauser appears to have bought into and built upon this very weird idea of alpha only fucks and only betas provide for a live in mate. His crew dress alike in costumes that highlight the bad-boy archetype, and we never hear him talk about him having any long term relationships with any of his conquests.
So he’s deliberately created this reality that deliberately excludes developing or even valuing long term relationship skills.
So it will be invisble to him the very concept of giving and receiving love, and MAINTAINING strong passionate long term love affairs.
So the skill sets required to have a live in and raise kids are completely outside of his radar.
Which directly relates to your comment:
Pickup skills can be learned, and somewhat taught.
LTR skills are what my blog is mostly about. I write about them because I believe that they can also be somewhat taught.
They are overlapping but distinct. LTR skills include developing your self in ways that are not important for pick up.
Deliberate blind spot.
People do fight for serotonin. But sometimes that fight can get not only a bit ugly, but a bit pathological. Not only not win/win, but more towards lose/lose.
This website (redacted) has a few people saying that Krauser can be prickly in person with other guys, and AMOG his own wings, or just generally bring down his friends state with arrogance. Someone did contact me before with a 1st hand story that jibes with that, of Krauser seeming to value his pick up skills so much that he gives off the vibe of dick measuring about it in what would otherwise be pleasant company.
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We all rationalize our choices of what is the best mating strategy based on exactly what we are doing. Krauser does it, and I do it. But I think in the back of Krauser’s mind, he realizes that his mating strategy is bodering on pathological and doesn’t really measure up against mating strategies where people actually love and take care of each other, and want to see each other again. So I think he projects out his insecurities, with an offensive psychological defence.
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I’d love to make this comment a post, because I believe that Krausers overall attitude towards women could lead spergy men towards only developing a spergy approach to women; never learning to open their hearts and lean into their artistic sides. I’m of two minds – with one mind not wanting to be too dickish. I suppose I could re-write it in the abstract, but where is the fun in that?
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Although Nick disparages guys who talk about women for not being as good or interested in daygame style pick up, he also said in 2012 that daygame tends to fuck up your life and turn you into an narcissist who can only attract fucked up people. https://krauserpua.com/2012/03/03/narcissism-and-codependency-in-the-puahb-dynamic/
More recently Nick has been thinking about converting to Christianity, and said:
So he clearly is of two minds of the value of the lifestyle that he’s devoted so many years to, and of the value of that lifestyle to others.
Which makes it all the more weird that he is so arrogant about it. Not weird, actually. It’s just a common divided brain. Not integrated personality.
I keep talking over and over about unifying the mind through practices designed to do exactly that.
I think we can see a good argument here for why that’s fucking god damned important, exactly and especially regarding dealing with the women in our lives.
Yes, and what’s worse is that people’s egos are usually very prickly.
You say:
That’s something that I’m working on. I’m not a great listener. Sometimes I have to notice that and force myself to pay more attention to pick out the wheat from the chaffe. To read comments twice. To not focus only on what I disagree with. To try to put myself into the other person’s shoes and figure out the insights from that perspective.
I noticed how bad I was at that, in part from seeing how good Nash is at it. And many other commenters here also.
But most people I think have a very difficult time with new perspectives.
Which usually makes talking about something where we are VERY emotionally invested, such as how to fuck, nearly impossible.
Theredquest says that he rarely gets positive feedback or interest when he talks about the benefits of a low sugar diet and using a bycicle for commuting as part of a fitness regimen.
Because people get prickly about their self esteem. So you can’t give advice.
And even on a blog where people go to to learn, giving advice will almost never work.
So many times, after people seeing me do chi-kung or meditate, they tell me “oh, I should start doing that”.
Ya. Right.
It’s like saying “Oh, I should also start a small side business”.
Like you say, it’s all talk. Nearly nobody ever actually does it.
And for talking about tantric types of sex, people actively avoid even imagining what the benefits could possibly be. Not only are most people to lazy to learn it, they are anti-lazy in even imagining what the benefits could be.
Luckily there is already a very small audience of people who have similar interests and lifestyles, and so that tiny audience of peers helps to keep me from giving up.
But as for actually influencing people?
All I can do is plant seeds, and hope for VERY long term minor social changes.
Or hope that a very few sensitive and talented men will take a small hint and run with it. That actually does happen.
Xsplat I`d love to hear what you experience if you try out this qigong form for a while:
Its my favorite form of qigong. I found it very powerful and profound and its being thought by quite a few western qigong masters and teachers as the or one of the most powerful forms they came across in China. Different teachers have slightly different versions. I practice Michael Winn version. But Donald Rubbo, Jerry Allan Johnson and a bunch of others have slightly different versions. I`d find it interesting to hear how someone with your experience perceives it.
Some of the movements that I do are a bit similar, however in that video he doesn’t use his words to talk about ways to feel energy. And in the description it’s called tai chi.
I haven’t studied tai chi, but the way that I was taught was that tai chi was more about the movements, with not much talk (and possibly not much attention) paid to the inner feeling.
With chi-kung, you actually don’t even have to move at all, and the focus is more on the energy. You can also move, and when I do. some of the movements are similar to some of his tai chi moves.
I was taught many moves, that possibly could add up to maybe 1/4 of his full dance, however I mostly only do a very few basic moves. Sometimes just one very simple basic move.
Sometimes I’ll do free form, which is a “thing”. You’re completely allowed, even encouraged, to just make shit up.
Some of the more interesting and even long term transformative stuff happens during the “just make shit up” times.
Reminds me of sex-role-play. It’s one thing to buy a nurse outfit, but the more interesting stuff is improvised on the spot, and your discover and surprise yourself – it comes out of you – from you – but a part of you didn’t much know about yet.
There was a time in the past – during my boyhood – when the term “sexual hangups” was used a lot. It was a pejorative term.
Nowadays people seem to think that sexual hangups are a good thing. A sign of moral character and strict machismo. Even and especially in the wider manosphere, whatever that is called this year.
But it’s not a good thing. People truly do need to embrace every part of themselves, and their lovers. Accept, love, use, and have fun.
Both people are not only happier, but less bored and can be happier together much longer that way. And in more ways.
Xsplat, is there a book or video or website you recommend for the energy practices you find most useful for sex and seduction? Thank you.
https://xsplat.wordpress.com/2018/11/04/how-meditation-and-chi-kung-make-you-sexy/