I understand, from afar, that the West has some hysterical anti-masculinity cultural problems, and both men and women are losing interest and ability to be social and attractive to each other face to face.
I understand that the online dating market makes getting dates with attractive women difficult for average and below average looking men.
I’ve also seen that for the most part people have an extremely difficult time changing their personal habits, even when they want to. And worse than that, people most often are entrenched within their identity politics world views. Even and perhaps especially many so called red-pilled men.
I don’t understand why people don’t take the serenity prayer seriously. It’s old technology, and it seems psychologically incontrovertible to me.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Or the 8th century Buddhist version:
If there’s a remedy when trouble strikes,
What reason is there for dejection?
And if there is no help for it,
What use is there in being glum?
I’m not traditionally religious, not least because humans know more now than they did when traditional texts were written. I don’t buy J. Peterson’s argument that we’re better off living as if the traditional texts were true, because we are evolved to embody the workable cultural truths that are encoded in the texts. Because there is no need to hold onto old workable memes when newer workable memes can be more helpful.
But I’m happy with the language of the serenity prayer.
The way I see it, life is quite difficult, and we truly might not be able to win enough to find happiness. But how much can it help to just bitch about it? Either you can do something about it, or you can’t. Right?
Right?
People prefer to complain about the weather instead of MOVING to a place with better weather. Or working inside their environment to control the effects of weather. Raincoats, umbrellas, air conditioning and central heating and roofs.
I’m still frequently surprised and dis-heartened that this blog isn’t on more blog-rolls, and that some of the posts don’t get linked to more in more discussions. I wrote a blog post before on that subject. Krauser recently said that he’s accepted the fact that he could never be popular, because you have to be common and therefore shit to be popular, and that he could never write down to please a common crowd. The Red Quest said that he realizes his blog can’t be popular because most manosphere/androsphere/red-pill readers prefer to remain in the anger phase, rather than be active in improving their lot with women.
I write mostly about LTR game. Very little actionable advice about pickup that isn’t about mindset and general self improvement. When I was active on the RVForum, some guys said this was irrelevant to them, as they were struggling with just getting laid at all. Others seemed genuinely bitter, and only wanted to “pump and dump the bitches”. My response to the forum attitude was that such guys can never be experts on women, as they never take the boat out of the harbor. Ok, so you took 100 boats for a spin in the harbor. So what?
I realize that men ache for community, and feel better about their suffering if they have like minded fellows in similar situations who can agree about scapegoats social ills. But the serenity prayer!
Change your mind, change your habits. Do you want to be in the anger phase until you die? Are you so stubborn that you have decided that this is your only option?
Many people have said that they have made genuine friends with books. That’s a very old idea, held by many. I’d like to believe that even though most people don’t comment here, that even the silent readers are in a real relationship with me. That I’m truly speaking to you.
Good.
yeah makes a lot of sense,
you see the same thing with politics. People will spend hundreds of hours a year reading, watching, listening, thinking, writing and talking about how shit their government is and spend 0 seconds moving to another country
Good post, important topic.
Chicken Little has so many man convinced they have “found something” in his preachings — it will take some other voices to show men that he is a dark alley… and there are other men worth studying.
Substitute Beige Phillip for Rollo… instantly turn your life around.
>> Do you want to be in the anger phase until you die? Are you so stubborn that you have decided that this is your only option?
Here I quibbled as you are helping the meme that “the anger phase” is a thing. I know men are angry… but that is not a “phase” that men must entertain at all. Which is exactly your point.
We should give the idea that an “anger phase” exists zero harbor. Fuck that idea.
With as much respect as I can dish out here without being untruthful… we have a lot of “followers” in life. In many areas of my life, I am a follower. So we have to be careful when we lay out a map and put “ANGER PHASE” somewhere in the middle. It is NOT necessary… again, I believe that is your point.
>> he forum attitude was that such guys can never be experts on women, as they never take the boat out of the harbor. Ok, so you took 100 boats for a spin in the harbor. So what?
Great comment. I love it.
I want to be an expert with women. What a beautiful goal.
Most men want to get laid more… that is not the same thing at all.
>> When I was active on the RVForum, some guys said this was irrelevant to them, as they were struggling with just getting laid at all.
I’m glad you can articulate this so well. This ^ is a real phase. This is something men that are trying to improve will go through. I have a lot of respect for men in this phase… I was there for many years.
If you’re in that phase… keep going.
>> But how much can it help to just bitch about it? Either you can do something about it, or you can’t. Right?
I think your “bitter redpill” guys have basically decided that they cannot do “something,” and that it’s societies fault. Which is fucking lame cop-out. No respect for that at all. And I have open hostility for men that encourage that kind of thinking in “followers.”
We should beat that meme out of our community. Send it back into the shadows.
THIS IS WHY I LOVE GAME… it’s action oriented. Action shall set you free.
What can you try? Go try it. No results? Talk to some guys. Tried harder. Take a longterm perspective on improvement. Get coaching (informal is fine). Fucking try.
There is a movie I saw on the plane to Tokyo on this trip… called Alpha. A bit cheesy, but I liked it.
“Life is for the strong.” I love that.
Strong is a lot about attitude, discipline, commitment. I got better because of those things.
Complaining it not on that list.
I can accept the environment (to your point, I should!), but I won’t accept my “lot in life.” Not passively.
I had had some success with women before, but in my 40s it took me 1000 approaches to get my first daygame lay… life opened up from there. At almost 46 I just took an 18 year old’s phone number on the street an hour ago.
Keep going.
Good comment.
I see what you mean about the “anger phase” I’m sure you realize the idea is taken from the Kübler-Ross stages of grief. It could accurately apply to men who were sold a lie about the nature of women and society, and are coming to terms with a more inclusive viewpoint. But I take your point; what’s happened instead is simply a new incorrect worldview.
More about Chicken Little. I’m watching Nassim Taleb on youtube, and he often talks of the idea of the importance of having “skin in the game” for any endeavor that affects people.
Keyboard jockey theorists have no skin in the game.
I’m trying to think of a single meme unique to Rollo that is actually true. Recently theredquest talked about how stages of mating is bullshit.
https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2019/01/08/profiling-girls-by-age-is-not-that-useful/
> I’m watching Nassim Taleb on youtube, and he often talks of the idea of the importance of having “skin in the game” for any endeavor that affects people.
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> Keyboard jockey theorists have no skin in the game.
The thing about him is… does anyone think he is good with women? The answer is yes, but I’m sure he is not.
He is a humorless bridge troll. No way women would like Rollo. He stinks of angry beta. I know a lot of guys that are good with women, all in different ways… none of them look anything like him.
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I know I am mostly ineffective when I go after him. But I think I plant a seed that there is more than one path to the truth… and 99.9% of those paths do no go thru Chicken Little’s Land of Doom and Books (on Doom!!!) for Sale.
I have been trying to show other examples. I’m into Patrice O’neil and Black Phillip. But he is wild, a lot of noise in the signal. I have started listening to the Beige Phillip archive… and in some ways it’s better. It’s less wild. And Dante is quite good, once he is out from under Patrice. Man, he has a lot of real knowledge to share, and so do his guests. And I’m reading one of Franco’s books now… another good example.
All of these men are not only “pilled,” but they are also EFFECTIVE. I believe all of those men are more than “angry defense” (The Skunk School of Redpill) and are bold, challenging, insightful, attractive men.
It’s night and day, really. I’d like to turn more men onto that kind of influence. We have a lot of Rollo Zombies. We don’t need any more.