If you would like to argue the point, then most likely you are a newbie.
I’ll prove the point to anyone who cares. Rooshv took a poll of partner counts of the participants in the rooshvforum that roosh thought was his personal controllable crowd. And a poll of dark triad traits. The partner counts were crazy low, and the hamburgertistic traits were crazy high. Heartiste has a documented history of editing peoples comments to say what he preferred them to say, or just deleting them.
Rollo’s crowd is… well, just read them. Losers. Read my discussions with them about teenagers, or marriage. They are socially programmed by women to accept all the terms of womens view of marriage, limiting lust to within a number of partners less than two, and an age group higher than anyone attractive. Or Rollo’s crowd can be outspoken in rejection of such social programming and instead adopt MGTOW programming. Rollo somehow accomodates both sets of opposing weak willed and minded men as his personal entourage.
The internets remember. And the internets will never forget Rollo saying that you should not even try to be a dominant man in a long term relationship. He responded to my comments, and mentioned me in his blog post reply – men can’t be alpha providers, “practically”, in his least humble view.
Sure, Rollo. Good excuses. It’s not your fault, for not maintaining long term passion, or finding a new lover. It’s your wife’s fault for losing interest. Sure.
I’m sad to say it – but fuck you for trying to be any sort of leader from that position. Your relationship is invisible to readers for a real reason, and I’m not going to be empathological about it. The needs of the many.
Older guys would remember when newspaper relationship columnists got called out for being divorced. People have every right to talk about their own personal experience, and their interpretation of it.
After that we’re talking about keyboard jockying.
Polemic has its place. In fact it’s a science of statistics that shows that it’s shame that moves society in directions – people don’t want to be on the wrong side of the fence.
Rollo and Heartiste and Roosh are has beens on the wrong side of the fence, with losers on the nets to stand in for in-your-slap-your-face friends. “Where is the ban button?! Where is my comment army? ”
Uh huh. Chomsky vs Buckley.
Any of them would fucking melt, under a gaze of any of the moderately well developed men in the real mens movement.
Roosh is a joke and he deserves his fate. Heartiste is a great place to bullshit on my morning coffee breaks. I agree most of them are imbeciles.
As far as Rollo goes, the man helped me tremendously. My grandfather was murdered by his ex-wife in a jealous rage. My Dad was only a 10 year old boy when he walked into the kitchen to find his lifeless body on the floor.
So my Dad didn’t have that all important role model in his life as a teenager to help guide him in the venetian arts. He was raised by the cathedral and my mother walked out on him when I was only 2 years old. A couple years later he foolishly married a woman he “got pregnant” the night he met her. My sister is the only one in our family with blue eyes.
So I grew up on the streets, hustled drugs, banged random girls and had fun. As I got older I bought into the cathedral lies as well. How was I to know any better?
After my first marriage failed, I started perusing PUA sites, it was clearly bullshit being marketed to average frustrated chumps, I was smart enough not to waste my money on any of it.
Then I found Rollo’s blog, and it clicked. I bought all of his books, and internalized the information. It was a huge “a ha!” Moment for me, because I was finally able to get laid. Quite easily.
Well, eventually I got bored of meaningless sex and wanted something deeper. So I created a family with my best “plate” She wasn’t the hottest, or even the sweetest, but she was the best around kids and her passion is health and nutrition.
In 3 years time, I have trained a liberal hippie feminist into a traditional, homeschooling housewife and first mate. She still has her moments, like all women, but she respects my frame, makes sure our children eat healthy and keeps the poz away from them. This is why Rollo gets letter from men that were on the brink of suicide thanking him.
Rollo does deserve credit where it is due, but I am also an engineer with an IQ over 120. The problem is he is giving dynamite out, and some people
picking it up are still children.
I need to take more time to listen your personal story carefully. I do realize that you’ve had your ups and downs, and during a down moment happened to turn to a metaphoriical radio and listen to a Beatles song and it saved you, somehow.
People also come to the Bible and get saved.
And the bible is pure bullshit.
And the Beatles just say what everyone just innatetely has inside them all the time. Paul is a decent normal bloke, being happy in public. It’s not that special, really.
So what did you read, again exactly, from Rollo? Can you please spell it out?
Someone said hi?
Oh ya, I get it.
Basic 101 stuff.
You are a man and deserve to have boundaries.
Fucking brilliant.
Beatles? I don’t listen to that commie garbage stuff so maybe you can explain it to me?
The Bible has some good stories in it too, but I certainly wouldn’t call it gospel. Some people need more direction and it has merit in a traditional sense. Modern Christianity is a sick joke.
Beatles: saved thousands from suidide. And yet just emotional pop music of no philosophical or political substance.. Who’se fault is that? The Savior Beatles, or the weeping little teenage girls who really had no intention of suicide but were desparately just scanning the environment for any ping back from the ocean at all. Anything that could get them closer to Paul.
And do we forget that our own teenage angst was larger than our adult emotional turmoil? Puppy love indeed).
Bible: saved thousands from suiside. Words edited so many times that the history of it drives pastors to become atheists – truly.
Rollo – also saved people from suicide. People smart enough to understand what he’s saying stop reading him. The rest are just too gratefull that they don’t understand yet. Better that way.,
Thank you
Ya, beware gratitude.
Anything is stupid outside of context, but I mean, you are your own Daddy, eventually.
We all learn from others, but that’s our own onwership, after a while.
Our muse comes from what we don’t undrestand, so there’s really not much pride in being happy about our own accomplichments.,
Fight it and you hate other people.
And you can’t even stop that.
That’s all of us.
He he he. It’s ok? Over time it gets easier. Really – really it does.
Gratitude can be really great. But it’s fake.
Humility is the same.
Try to fight it – your own neurosis – your own humility or pride. You can’t.
It doesn’t matter at all. That’s the smallest tiniest part of yourself. Just a background huge big voice.
I like Roosh, I do not agree with him all the time, but he is entertaining with his point of view. Heartiste pre 2012 was really cool, but I am black, so everything after 2012 was not my thing. Rollo is cool, he is not perfect but I like most of his content don’t agree with it,but I like it.
I am a lecherous sexual degenerate, so of course I love Delicious Tacos.
Heartiste has some incredible posts – awesome. Timeless art.
Rollo and Roosh also have great moments.
Tons of hat tips.
I’m sure all three can produce more hat tips in the future.
I’m a flawed character. So are they. Buyer beware.
Being beware is a very active activity. I didn’t even know that I knew what the word pernicious meant until I had to characterize the writings of these people.
Their writings are like trojan horses.
Or their writings are like sly pump and dump pick up artists pretending to want to marry. Or any other bait and switch dating tactic you can think of. Trolling sugar daddy websites for girls who don’t ask for cash up front before putting out. Their writings are like that. Their writings will leave you wanting and confused, in the long run.
“… But, but, he was so charming! How could he be so full shit! Isn’t charm the same as substance??!”
It’s not the 1800’s. You don’t have to eat arsenic to cure your syphillis.
That you find writers entertaining as good enough reason to enjoy them is trouble.
Rember Bob Dylan’s words; “You never understood that it aint no good, you shouldn’t let other people, get your kicks for you”
Being entertaining is just being slick. It’s lube. Do you really know and want that particular cock in you? Those guys are selling some fucking nasty cock. Fun, maybe. Poisonous, absolutely.
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That was a good comment, and thank you for it. Comments are a type of micro-payment to writers, to repay them for their writing efforts. But please refrain from upvoting your own comment. I’ve been sorely tempted many times myself – it’s a difficult discipline, I know.
Glad to see you are writing regularly again. You should move your ruko up to Jakarta so yoy can give trainings to all the Roosh members going through the city 😉
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