Wudang: Have you read about the grass eaters and herbivores of Japan? Apparently there are huge numbers of them.

I’ve heard about them.

After spending several years socializing on mens forums that are geared towards understanding women, seduction, and positive masculinity, being introduced to the attitudes of the group at the mgtowforums was a bit unnerving. I’m still a bit freaked out.

The culture over at the rooshvforum is one of strong personal responsibility for outcomes – if anything they take it a bit too extreme and some go so far as to downplay the effects of looks or money or race. But generally it’s a positive spin – to take charge and make your own world, with no excuses. And generally the culture there is also one that avoids using snark as argument, and has a good level of intellectual rigor.

But the western grasseaters at the mgtow forum give me a wholly different impression. I can’t know how accurate the impressions are. All I have to work on is the comments there: http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/mens-general-discussion/11725-5-days-impotence-2.html. But the impressions I’m getting is not just of men with certain beliefs and ego protections and lifestyle strategies, but with certain styles of thinking that are VERY feminine. Using eye rolling as argument, for instance. Making comments such as quoting me and then following it with “Too rich to comment.” Using ad hominem as argument.

I’m unnerved and freaked out by them because maybe for them their reality holds together pretty well. They are relatively sexually anhedonic, and can’t understand why sex and intimacy matter to others. Added together with the clue of their extreme feminine thinking styles, and it points to an extremely emasculated hormonal system. These are going to be guys the least suited to game, and seduction. For them the sexual market place may actually be a pretty hopeless, lost cause. Which again would be an attitude totally at odds with what the culture at rooshvforum would allow. To make a change from that position would require extra-ordinary willpower and dedication, and probably also testosterone replacement therapy along with rigorous excersise and many other major lifestyle changes. But without the testosterone to begin with, where would they find the drive?

Just as testosterone feeds a lifestyle that leads to a feedback loop of growing testosterone, so too does the grass eater lifestyle and attitude feed an estrogen cycle.

And the thinking styles genuinely do point to a low level of testosterone when they were developing in the womb. I’m not just making that up in order to boost my argument through ad hominem. Emotional thinkers are not likely to be able to notice their thinking patterns, but I’m pretty sure most people with stronger reasoning skills who look at their comments can see it. There is a very strong pattern there. From men it’s astounding to have such a concentration of feminine thinking styles. Are tofu and other environmental estrogens fucking up our men, from the very beginnings of their life?

This is all new to me, and is frankly a bit freaky.

Testosterone related news:
A new study finds that a drop in testosterone levels over time is more likely to result from a man’s behavioral and health changes than by aging.

Sleep Loss Dramatically Lowers Testosterone in Healthy Young Men

Testosterone Drops in Dads Sharing Beds With Kids

Brain Sex differentiation: During fetal development, the brain is influenced by sex hormones such as testosterone, estrogens and progesterone

testosterone decline is very often due to obesity and depression.

Testosterone replacement is tricky: Increased testosterone serum levels (what one gets from ‘replacement’ or supplementation) signal the hypothalamus and pituitary glands to essentially clamp down on the body’s production of testosterone precursors. This in turn may trigger atrophy of the testes, since the the number of testosterone producing cells decreases over time. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone#Regulation for a high level explanation of the process. Suggesting that a way of up-regulating the body’s own production would be preferable to supplementation

A Testosterone Replacement Therapy testimonial:
20 years ago I (ed. the writer of this is not xsplat) was diagnosed with very low testosterone, the primary symptom in my case was osteopenia, low bone density, but not yet to the point of oteoporosis but close. My endocrinologist place me on a daily regimen of testosterone gel, but while the standard dose wasn’t adequate for increasing bone density over a two year period, and my weight was still going up, and ki was not improving my clinical depression (I though I was just a serious person). We doubled the dose and six months later I lost 70 lbs., my BMI had gone from 38 to to 17, and I had as much energy as most men 10 years younger. My work focus improved dramatically, started earning raises and promotions, and my sexual desire was much stronger (eventually leading to a divorce from a woman who just has little to no desire, for me anyway. I’m happy, outgoing, and have a great lady friend who loves me and keeps me satisfied as if we were in our 20s. My cardiologist was freaked out my by numbers, but he felt that the dramatic improvement in my quality of life was well worth the risk. I can’t thank the doctor who first discovered my deficiency and took the initiative to do something about it. Previous doctors just said it was a normal part of aging, but I knew something was wrong. Now all know!

Tips for naturally boosting testosterone:
Muscle building is part of the positive feedback loop. Don’t worry about cardio. Exercise bikes aren’t for men. Weights are. You will get enough cardio from a real lifting program. (I recommend Stronglifts. It’s fast, simple, and it works.) Another part is diet. Stop eating like a woman. Saturated fats and cholesterol promote testosterone production. The last part is psychological. Your moods effect your hormone production, and testosterone is a hormone. Nothing boosts testosterone like winning. Find a competition — some sort of competitive hobby — and work at it until you start winning at it. Winning boosts testosterone and losing dampens it.

On top of it all, it feeds on each other. The diet helps you build muscle. Building muscle builds confidence, which makes winning easier. When you are winning, you start building muscle faster, you are hungrier… on and on.

Another case for supplementation:
Want to know how I found out I had low testosterone? (ed. not xsplat)After following the Tony Horton 10 minute workout for three months, I went to my doctor with chest pains: Turned out I’d strained my pectoral muscle doing a pushup. Thought I was ready to do them from the foot instead of the knees, and was wrong. After three months of intensive exercise, I still couldn’t do normal pushups without injury. I wasn’t one bit stronger than when I started, I’d just finally gained enough determination to push it to the point of injury. (Though I did lose a bit of weight.)

Your advice is probably good for men with marginal testosterone levels; Lose weight, work out, have hot sex, and you’ll get back up to normal levels. For those of us with vanishingly low testosterone, heavy exercise just wears the muscle down, because there’s not enough tet in the system to get any anabolic effect from exercise. For us it’s supplementation, or nothing.

Average men’s testosterone dropping over the generations:
testosterone levels are dropping with each generation and there are countless amounts of environmental estrogens that we’re exposed to daily to blame for this. Whether it’s the estrogen-pumped chickens to produce increased breast growth so those raising them are more profitable, or the water we drink which is contaminated with all the birth control women take, or the produce we eat which is sprayed with pesticides, or the plastics we use every day- we can’t escape it. Now, by simply observing men today one can see a comparative difference between men from the 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, but it seems this difference exists in others places- their testosterone levels. There’s actually a long-spanning study that shows how testosterone levels in American men has dropped approx 20 % in 20 years. The study ranged from approx 1980 -2000. Now, testosterone levels drop naturally with age, but this is not what is meant. What is meant by a 20% decrease, and what the study shows is, a 60 yo man in 2000 has, on average, 20% less testosterone than a 60 yo man from 1980.

Documentary about lowering testosterone levels:

The Disappearing Male is about one of the most important, and least publicized, issues facing the human species: the toxic threat to the male reproductive system.

The last few decades have seen steady and dramatic increases in the incidence of boys and young men suffering from genital deformities, low sperm count, sperm abnormalities and testicular cancer.

At the same time, boys are now far more at risk of suffering from ADHD, autism, Tourette’s syndrome, cerebral palsy, and dyslexia.

The Disappearing Male takes a close and disturbing look at what many doctors and researchers now suspect are responsible for many of these problems: a class of common chemicals that are ubiquitous in our world.

Found in everything from shampoo, sunglasses, meat and dairy products, carpet, cosmetics and baby bottles, they are called “hormone mimicking” or “endocrine disrupting” chemicals and they may be starting to damage the most basic building blocks of human development.

BPA and testosterone:
Bisphenol A, known commonly as BPA, is sapping your manliness each and every day. The chemical causes obesity, increased estrogen levels, disrupts the normal operation of the thyroid gland, and causes cancer. This pervasive toxin is found nearly everywhere. Soda cans, shopping receipts, plastic water pipes, bowls, and hundreds of other products contain minute but measurable levels of BPA.

BPA is used in the plastics manufacturing process as a binding agent, mostly in the production of PVC and Polycarbonate. Other types of plastics may also contain this chemical. The layman may be assured that a product contains BPA if the resin identification code, or “recycle number” is three or seven. Items with a resin ID code of one do not contain BPA.

Of particular interest to men is the method by which BPA increases estrogen in the body. Per this article by Robert Rister, BPA causes testosterone levels to INCREASE, causing weight gain. The excess fat converts testosterone into estrogen, triggering breast growth, penis shrinkage, memory loss, and attention span problems. If these were the only ill effects of a single dose of the chemical, then the effects would be short lived and totally reversible. Alas, it is not the case.

BPA disrupts normal thyroid function, making weight loss difficult. The continued exposure to the chemical prolongs thyroid malfunction, penis shrinkage, and the rest of the above effects, gelding men through chemical means. The literate man may read more about the harm BPA does to the thyroid gland in this document from Kyoto University Graduate School of Medicine.

The long term effects of measurable levels of BPA in the human body include several types of cancers, including prostate cancer as stated in this scholarly article by Julian Josephson. This is in addition to the long term effects of obesity.

The man of today is hard pressed to avoid BPA. It is everywhere. Going to the grocery, a man encounters it in the packaging of his food, the microwavable plastic bowl in his frozen dinner, and even the receipt the cashier hands him. If he stops to buy a soda, the almost imperceptible plastic liner in the soda can is leeching BPA, fouling his already unhealthy beverage.

Generally, any hard plastic or polycarbonate contains BPA. This may include baby bottles, but the more reputable manufacturers are offering BPA free products. When in doubt, the involved father is advised to check the product’s label. Manufacturers are aware of the growing concern regarding BPA and will mark a BPA free product accordingly.

Though it is everywhere, the attentive man can reduce his exposure. By using glass or ceramic microwave dishes, abstaining from canned beverages and soups, and buying food with little or no packaging, a man can stop and reverse the cycle of weight gan, penis shrinkage, prostate enlargement, and thyroid malfunction. BPA is a poison! The reader is advised to avoid it as he would arsenic.