Men value love, women love value.
Posted by xsplat on December 16, 2011
Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically.
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Fartholomew Simpdaughter said
I really, really, really hope the myth that girls are the hopeless romantics gets kicked to the curb ASAP. Everyone needs to realize that men are the “romantics pretending to be realists” and women; vice versa. This has been exhibited so much its freakign ridiculous as how others dispute otherwise.
I was just watching a clip of Keeping up with the Kardashians and there was a scene where Kris was doing something and Kim was on her back.. and when Kris tried to defend himself; Kim’s sister goes ..” Kris take it easy on her, when Kim falls in love, she really really deeply falls in love, so she’s passionate.” I’ve heard this uttered from one of my own good friends who dumped her rich beta boyfriend six years her senior in pursuit of older, more valuable prospects with feigned tears.
How could a lie so blatant possibly be believed?
What’s worse is that our sex drive as seen as “pig-iike” behavior? Wouldn’t you think that exploiting a creature for it’s cash is worse than “pig-like behavior.” The whole all guys want from girl is sex.. I mean it does indicate a higher intelilgence when someone uses their victims desires to their benefits.. but xsplat who do u feel is the superior, moral one in this exchange?
Furthermore, do you feel that a rich lonely man is more fulfilled than a rich lonely woman, generally speaking? And that a loved woman is more fulfilled than a loved man, generally speaking? What’s up with that
Interested to hear your thoughts!
xsplat said
I think less in terms of morality nowadays, and more in terms of power. If something is beneficial, it’s often beneficial for someone, at the expense of someone else. If we belong to the group who would benefit, we’re more likely to consider the action moral.
So I prefer to simply look at strategies of power, and forget about judging them as moral or not. I think the reason we hold moral judgments is just another exercise of power, to get other people to limit negative actions against us, and perform positive actions towards us. Not that this is “wrong”, of course, because, as I’ve said, my way of thinking now looks at strategies of power rather than categories of strategies. Being moralistic is one strategy of power. It seems to me that this strategy is more effective in smaller groups where people know each other. Where you have anonymous actions or actions that can’t be socially punished, morality is less effective in limiting actions of others.
So women are fickle goldiggers who seek provisioning and alpha sperm, not necessarily from the same man, and men like to fuck lot of young beautiful females. Which is more moral? The question doesn’t mean much. We’re both just innately biologically programmed to do that, and will use all sorts of strategies to achieve our goals.
It is a female strategy to limit men’s sexuality in order to accomplish their goal of provisioning. So they’ll call us pigs for doing the job that men are biologically built to do. That is the job of females – to thwart the job of men. It is neither right nor wrong, it’s simply a strategy to achieve the ends of controlling male sexuality and resources for the benefit of her children.
I’m not following your meaning behind your question of who is happier being rich old and lonely, men or women. If a man is rich and old, he’s less likely to as lonely as a rich old woman. And no one likes to be lonely.
In summary I find it easier to predict actions of other people if I can see their agendas, and I find that thinking in terms of what is moral gets in the way of seeing what really motivates people. We have public and private agendas. Only our public face is moral. Even if we believe that our personal actions are moral, the intentions behind them are quite private and hidden behinds all sorts of rationalizations. Our private aims tend to ultimately be selfish. Even if we band together as a group to achieve our private aims, it’s still a collectivized selfishness – a greater good for ourselves. And groups are never univeral – there is always in-group and out-group rivalry for resources.
We like to first decide what is moral, and then look to see who is acting moral, in order to correct the actions of others. That doesn’t really work in large groups where people don’t need to all share the same outward public face. In modern society people can openly clash in their opinions and beliefs, and openly express their personal agendas. And even if they aren’t open abou their private agendas, and use subterfuge to proclaim one agenda while following another, such as women who seek provisioning while cheating on their husband trying to shame her pig like animalistic horny urges of her husband, even and especially then, morality is merely a tool used to influence others to act in accordance with our personal benefit.
Women are not expected to ever act morally – they realize that morality is nothing other than a tool. It is men who tend to believe that morality exists in and of itself as an abstract principle to be guided by.
Dom said
This reply should be a blog post in and of itself.
Objectivism is for idealists. Machiavellianism is for realists.
xsplat said
https://xsplat.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/morality-is-nothing-but-social-manipulation/
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