Ya, I tried brushing. I asked for recommendations from a doctor. I tried emollients and anti itching cream.

But about 10 seconds after I know I’m lucid (only very lucid, not moderately lucid), the itching in the legs becomes unbearable and more than enough to wake me, and this lasts for two minutes after being awake. It’s been like that for 18 or so years. I only feel this sensation during this trigger. It is more intense than desire for a lustful object, less intense than fear of death, and similar to the uncomfortable pain of a dentist noise that you know will pass. I put this in terms of kleshas, passion, aggression, aversion, as I understand that the emotive component of the sensation is optional, and that how the underlying sensation is processed is variable. I understand this from personal experience. Still, as of know, the experience is unbearable, and I wake.

Vajrayana aims to undercut experience even after the emotive component is processed.

Here are some twists:
1) What we see, is processed by a different part of the brain than what is aware. Such that a person with a specifically damaged brain won’t be aware of seeing a ball, but will catch it.

So, our conscious decisions are an after the account artifact. We see them, then make up a world in which we chose them.

2) We are “aware” of a multiplicity of unconscious events, and these are stored in short term memory. Our “consciousness” pulls from short term memory a unified world view, on demand, from short term memory. We experience this as a continuous mirroring internally of reality, but it is very limited. See my earlier link. This is a big deal, not some intellectual point. Our awareness is not immediate, but pulls multiple world views out of memory.

And memory is not confined to “real” memory, but often includes false memories.

Look to many studies into witness acuracy, or hypnotically induced false memories.

Another thing:

Memories during dream time can happen in a flash, such that in one instant we pull out a array of arrays of deep memories.


Near death, the mind pulls ALL memories out. It flashes to all neurons, and asks for all pertinant information, and ALL memories provide, and the life is experienced. So we see that the mind can give information faster than the normal linear rate. This is not time changing, nor new worlds being explored, it is memory and awarness acting with consciousness in an unusual way. A way that Jananda is very familiar with. The interpretation of this should be subject to a community of like peers, under the controls of interpersonal validified experimentation, and encompassing the greatest possible information.

At this point the greatest possible information includes things that lead to many cognitive dissonances, that we can no more disregard than we can overfishing. OBEs have never seen the same physical world that our eyes do in a measurable way – that should make you think.