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Contemplative dominance for the modern man

Are American women tameable?

Posted by xsplat on December 25, 2012

Wutang Wrote: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/boo…

“a woman whom Gloria Steinem once blurbed and Ms. Magazine supported — a self-described hardcore feminist: “I was one of the demanding ones, combating injustice and inequality on the front lines.

They were beliefs she was raised on. Her father, Nelson Valdes, is a Marxist professor who emigrated from Cuba. And her mother, a light-haired and blue-eyed beauty queen, “looked like Jayne Mansfield but favored Jane Fonda in politics.”

“He calls her “darlin’ ” and holds the door for her, which secretly “turned me on.”

“And though he’s so wrong, the woman who describes herself as “mean, combative and angry” is suddenly reduced to a giggling, teenage girl in the presence of such rugged manliness.”

“The cowboy begins to train his new girlfriend — once such a spitfire — like he would a dog or a horse, he tells her.

“Atta girl,” he clicks at her when she does something right. When she makes a mistake — say by getting drunk and picking a fight with him — he freezes her out, teaching her a lesson”.

Training a girl is high level skill, but when you’ve put in the time and effort to cultivate that skill, it can be applied in even the most extreme situations.

I know many people don’t have the personal life experiences to support such a view, but there are examples such as this all around us. Even wild horses can be broken.

My girl was singing love songs to me again last night, and was brought to tears with emotion. Do you know what she talked about as the reason for her emotion? How I changed her. How I broke her, basically. How I forced her to learn to cook, how I forced her to wear feminine dresses instead of her tom-boy clothes. That I took control of her. She mimicked my stern authoritative tone; “Woman! Take your English lessons!” and was overcome with gratitude.

Getting a girl into bed is all well and good, but this defeatist attitude about just how workable these ferile creatures are is… unbecoming to men who purport to enjoy a challenge.

Women respond to dominance. Really. They really, really, really really do. It’s a very subtle skill to be able to turn a girl from a career oriented tomboy into a devoted love slave. But we have our role models and methods already and the task can be broken down into manageable parts and effective solutions found and implemented. Women are very malleable, but it takes the willpower of a skilled man to mold them.

I could give example after example of women responding very positively to extreme forms of dominance. The thread on striking a woman made several months back was pretty fucking extreme. I know it’s difficult to believe. I know most men don’t even want that kind of responsibility – to be the man in charge. They want a life partner who is a peer. None the less, it’s a fact. There are ways to break wild horses.

A simple domestic example. Last night my girl gave a very mild shit test – the first in a long while. She gabbed on about “what if I were to go out alone at night – you’d be lonely, wouldn’t you?”. I grabbed her and threw her over the couch and started spanking her ass. “This is what would happen!”

Women want to be owned, and controlled. To do so in a way that they consider playful and fun and that leads to submission and then to total giving over of their mind and body and soul is a very worthwhile art. Almost a sorcerers art.

Actually, it’s not always playful and fun. It requires a high tolerance for drama to be able to out drama the dramatress to dominate a woman, at times. But overall it’s playful and fun.

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26 Responses to “Are American women tameable?”

  1. avd said

    Hear, hear.

  2. fedrz said

    “Even wild horses can be broken.”

    Women have always controlled men. It’s the natural order. Ever notice how so many teenage girls have an affinity for horses? They’re exercising the same set of skills: how to control a large, dangerous but very useful animal. Any girl who owns a horse will understand that treating the animal with respect is the best way to have a successful relationship.

    • xsplat said

      The no-maam blog is one of my favorites. And I agree that it’s a natural order for women to rule the household. That’s what we see all over the world.

      But it’s not the only natural order. The other natural order is rarer, and that is for the rare man to rule the house. It’s rare because women have the natural advantage. It takes a lot of experience and applied skill to have hand over a woman.

      • fedrz said

        Heh, sorry, I probably should have left the “Women have always controlled men” part off of that quote. (Rollo has defined the feminine imperative quite well).

        What I really meant to get at was the wild horses analogy.

        It is the yin and yang part of it all.

        I was thinking of this very analogy of wild horses earlier today, and here I am reading your post on whether women are tameable – like wild horses.

        When I was thinking earlier, I was thinking along the lines of “women taming the horse.”

        A long time ago, I wrote a post about Legends of the Fall, which catapulted Brad Pitt into sex-god fame. But think about this movie further, where Suzanna meets Tristan out in the field and at the end of the scene, he races off chasing after a black wild mustang… a few scenes later he is seen coming back with this beast, and has it in the coral, where he acquires a black eye as he tames it, and finally, he is riding this animal.

        When we talk about “taming” each-other, from the woman’s point of view (I was thinking today), that is what she wants: that horse.

        She wants the wild, out of control animal, and wants to control it herself through her manipulations. This is power. To control a beast of such wildness, and such beauty and strength. The horse is power, and she is controlling it.

        However, watch horse owners.

        I remember the first horse I ever rode. It was an old hag, ready for the glue factory. Her name was “Spark-Plug.” But there was little “spark” left in the old girl. I feared a trot would cause her a heart attack!

        Horse owners might “like” a horse like this. But they don’t get excited by such horse. A friend I knew some years back (who was a couple decades older than myself), grew up in rural Saskatchewan with a horse named “Ben.” Ben was a great horse, my friend told me, because when he was younger, he would take Ben and the wagon into town and tie one on at the bar over the weekend, and after the pub shut down, he would just untie Ben from the post, roll his bed down on the wagon floor, take a nap, and Ben would steadfastly plod his way home to the farm, knowing his own way by heart even in the dark, and when Ben made it home, my friend would proceed into the house and go to bed.

        These horses are “nice” and “reliable,” but they don’t excite people much beyond their steadfastness and loyalty.

        The horse that people (especially women) like to ride, is that once wild, but now tamed mustang.

        And further, how does that once wild horse still prove his worth as an exciting ride?

        By not being agreeable all of the time!

        He kicks up a fuss once in a while. He pushes while she pulls. He is approachable enough to ride, but unpredictable enough to maintain her constant respect. He is exciting to be around at all times, because he is “wild.”

        The horse analogy works pretty good for what women are seeking out of a man. They want a wild beast, powerful between her legs, that they are in questionable control of – in other words, exciting!

      • xsplat said

        I didn’t realize that was your blog.

        I’d read that article a while back, and reread it just now. Great work.

      • taterearl said

        I’d argue the man running the household is the natural order and the woman does everything she can to try and take that away from him.

        Look at what happens to the household when the woman runs things and the man allows it. She’s not happy, he’s not happy, and the thing falls apart.

      • xsplat said

        It’s true women are happier when the man is in charge. But they seem to be built to fight that, and they fight well enough that it’s rare that the man winds up in charge

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  4. Don said

    The PUA literature is based on the assumption that beta males control their women. They are the provider class. Alpha men fuck and impregnate their women.
    So patriarchy is the beta males’ world. There is no need and incentive to provide for and control your lover’s life if we follow this interpretation.
    What do you think xsplat? You seem have a different view compared with the PUA dogma. I agree with your point of view and i think you are right on a lot of topics, plus you have more experience and you know that life is not black or white, so are relationships with women.

    • xsplat said

      There are two books that deal with women being the ones really in charge.

      Esther Villars The Manipulated Man. PDFs of that are available online.

      And Chinweizu, a Nigerian writer has a good book about the subject The Anatomy of Female Power, also available online.

      You should be able to find links to downloads for both here: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-9439.html

      Sometimes people will say that SEA cultures are patriarchal, but I see them as matriarchal. It’s the mother who is the head of the household, and especially the boss of the children. And by children I mean any of her offspring, of any age.

      • Don said

        Thank you for the link.

        It seems women rule the world. Male children are raisen by society rules (made by women) to become beta males. Stay an employee, pay taxes, get married, be a provider and retire. For the good of society (women!).

  5. t said

    I understand you don’t want to go into details of hitting the girl, but what happens immediately after. I understand that its an emotional moment and you should do what the situation requires, but do you usually stick around right after or leave for a few hours. If you stay, do you get close to her immediately or stay away for a while before the make-up sex.

  6. Dillon said

    You think you are dominating but are actually being dominated because that’s what she wants. That’s her fetish. Most men don’t see it because of ego.

    You won’t disagree that she can make you stop dominating anytime she wants.

    Don’t try it on a woman who doesn’t want it, especially in the west.

    • Don said

      “You think you are dominating but are actually being dominated because that’s what she wants. That’s her fetish. Most men don’t see it because of ego.”

      Can you explain it better Dillon?

      • Dillon said

        Attraction comes first. After that the couple can choose who will be the leader. No one wants to dominate or be dominated by who they don’t like.

        Its a myth that women like to be dominated. Actually women pretend to like to be dominated because that’s an effective way to control the man because of his pride and ego.

        Of course they only do it to men who they can get something from and not every man.

      • Hero said

        Dillion, get up from your keyboard and go out into the real world and experiment with these ideas.

        Biologically, women must acknowledge that they are smaller and weaker than their male counterparts. This dominant/submissive aspect to the relationship exists regardless of what Feminism has told you is myth or fact or ideal.

      • Dillon said

        Reading comprehension fail. Good luck in the real world.

        I never said women aren’t weaker or that dom/sub doesn’t exist. I’m saying that women use men’s desire to dominate to manipulate them.

      • xsplat said

        Assuming that men do want to dominate, and don’t do so mostly to turn women on and to gain hand in the relationship and get their way and to manipulate women rather than be manipulated by them, do you consider it a possibility at all that a man could learn how to be dominant while avoiding being manipulated?

      • taterearl said

        “Its a myth that women like to be dominated. Actually women pretend to like to be dominated because that’s an effective way to control the man because of his pride and ego.”

        Then I guess what God was saying in Genesis 3:16 was just babble.

        It’s only a myth in this day and age because media brainwashing has been so effective. Go out in the real world and rule a woman and tell me what the results are.

        Let’s put it this way too…would a man be happier to be manipulated by a wife who submits to his authority, or a shrew who nags him to death to do her whims.

      • Hero said

        @Dillon

        “Its a myth that women like to be dominated.”

        Can you back this statement up?

        This statement is the essence of what I was challenging and I disagree with it.

        From my perspective women seek to submit to a man that they view as worthy of their respect. I have seen women falter when their man is not in control and go so far as to request that the man have control over them. Women become very uncomfortable, irritable and argumentative around men they do not respect. All these negative expressions calm down around a man that can command calm from them.

        “Actually women pretend to like to be dominated because that’s an effective way to control the man because of his pride and ego.”

        It sounds to me like you feel that you have continually been manipulated by women. Have you ever expressed yourself as a dominant man, putting your needs and desires first, with positive results?

      • Don said

        Attraction does not come first.
        Domination/power is an attraction trigger.

        There is a logical fallacy in your argumentation

    • Dillon said

      Women agree to be dominated because they get something out of it, not just for domination itself. No woman will care if you are dominant but poor and ugly. If you are rich and/or good looking there’s a possibility for trade. If they can get something from the man, it does not matter if the man is a dom or a sub. They can play both games well. Women don’t let pride get in the way of what they want (like many men nowdays unfortunately).

      xsplat
      Assuming that men do want to dominate, and don’t do so mostly to turn women on and to gain hand in the relationship and get their way and to manipulate women rather than be manipulated by them, do you consider it a possibility at all that a man could learn how to be dominant while avoiding being manipulated?

      Sure, as long as one is aware of the game being played and doesn’t get the wrong idea. She engages your fantasy and gets something in return. Its a trade.

      taterearl
      Let’s put it this way too…would a man be happier to be manipulated by a wife who submits to his authority, or a shrew who nags him to death to do her whims.

      Is it better getting scammed or robbed?

      Hero
      From my perspective women seek to submit to a man that they view as worthy of their respect. I have seen women falter when their man is not in control and go so far as to request that the man have control over them. Women become very uncomfortable, irritable and argumentative around men they do not respect. All these negative expressions calm down around a man that can command calm from them.

      These are all manipulations. You don’t see them as manipulations because you are getting something out of it ie Feeding of ego. Women will respect (feed ego of) a man who can do some good for them directly or indirectly and agree to his authority as long as its benefiting the but no further. They become uncomfortable, irritable and argumentative when they don’t see a benefit anymore.

      Hero
      It sounds to me like you feel that you have continually been manipulated by women. Have you ever expressed yourself as a dominant man, putting your needs and desires first, with positive results?

      Ad hominem.

      Don
      Attraction does not come first.
      Domination/power is an attraction trigger.
      There is a logical fallacy in your argumentation

      Try being dominant while being stay at home bf or husband while your wife/gf pays the bills and see if there’s still attraction. Money (power) is certainly an attraction trigger but not domination by itself. Don’t mix them up.

      A guy can go to an expensive resturant and be dominant to the staff as long as he’s spending money, they’ll be happy to put up with it and call him a big shot and tell him how much they like having big shots. But the day he stops spending money he won’t be welcome anymore. Women are the same way.

      • xsplat said

        No woman will care if you are dominant but poor and ugly. If you are rich and/or good looking there’s a possibility for trade. If they can get something from the man, it does not matter if the man is a dom or a sub. They can play both games well.

        I see what you are saying, and there is some truth to it. Dominance isn’t just a mindset, it’s also a social position. A guy can get away with being broke and still dominate a womans heart and soul, but she is going to want to at least see potential for social and financial dominance in the guy, for an LTR. Women get irritable and antsy with kitchen bitches and go nowhere couch warmers. Doing your share of the vacuuming is appreciated, but it isn’t a turn on. Its sexier when there is some financial polarity, and she is trading housework for your overarching security provisioning – or the potential of it. Her being the underling is in return for something – that’s a good thing to notice.

        However you seem to be ignoring or sidestepping the fact that dominance is in itself an attraction trigger to women. Dominance, even without money, is still attractive. Just like big muscles even without confidence is attractive. Put dominance plus status together, and you get addition. Put muscles and confidence together and you get more than either alone.

        Sure, women trade submission, but don’t forget that they do so not only for money, but for dominance. They want not only provisioning – they want the actual dominance itself.

        And then there is the sexual strategy of one night stands and very brief flings, where provisioning doesn’t enter into it. But dominance still does.

        I like your insight into the transactional nature of how women submit in order to get their needs met, but it sounds to me like you are implying that they therefore get the better end of the bargain.

        Look at if from the point of view of an employer. Do his submissive underlings get the better of him through their compensation?

        It’s up to the man to ensure he is getting a bargain that profits him. It’s perfectly workable, and equity imbalances can very easily favor the man.

  7. jake said

    answer my e-mail, fucker. also … where do you find the powers to resist all the teenage 10 dollar girls in the club? or is that just where i’m at?

    there are some local ‘good girl’ virgin ones that i’m working on too, in my (weak) defense. especially reading your stuff as of late, which is fairly brilliant. definitely worth applying, especially in a similar brain wiring culture as indo.

    • xsplat said

      $10 girls? Where are you at? Are you still in Cambodia?

      I haven’t really looked into it closely but from what I heard the going rate for a girl was over $100/night about 5 years ago in Bali. And the guy would also often be expected to buy drugs for the girl. That was according to a whore who lived next door to me at the time. She was about a 7 and took one new client home every night.

      Some girls in Jakarta are said to go home with a guy for drugs only, but the guy I was out with was an addict looking for me to buy everyone a fix, so I’m not sure if that promise of cheap sex was accurate. Could be – but I’d guess more often they’d want more.

      I don’t think you’ll find Cambodia prices out here though. The economy seems pretty strong lately – late model cars everywhere, tons of new construction. Not quite third world anymore – not in the cities, anyway.

      Email answered.

  8. orion said

    You know, at first I did not understand where you were coming from.

    But, the more I understand, the more you make sense.

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